Showing posts with label Afghanistan. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Afghanistan. Show all posts

go out and kill every Taliban or bring them into the government in some ways?


The Diane Rehm Show , May 11, 2012
MS. DIANE REHM
Thanks for joining us. I'm Diane Rehm. Twin suicide bombings in Syria kill at least 55 and injure hundreds. Voters in France and Greece oust incumbent leaders and Russia clamps down on protests of Vladimir Putin's return to the presidency. Joining me to talk about the week's top international stories on the Friday News Roundup, David Sanger of The New York Times, Susan Glass of Foreign Policy magazine and Matt Frei of the UK's Channel 4 News

SANGER
.. to assess the administration's metrics for how they're doing against the Taliban, ..  the numbers that the administration has put together is how successful the Afghan National Army has been in taking control of certain areas of the country.   What the numbers don't tell you is that as the United States pulls back, almost everybody in the region, Afghans and Americans alike, can see that the future of Afghanistan is that some parts of the country are going to be essentially controlled by the Taliban, because the Taliban have always been there, and the Taliban probably always will be there. And so then the question is, do you bring the Taliban into the government in some way, which is what these negotiations are about.  And how do you run on a platform that says I'm pulling us back from Afghanistan, but we acknowledge that parts of the country will be in Taliban control in a few years?
(Or,) Do you continue to try to go out and kill every Taliban you can find, ..  But that then raises the question for how long and with how many troops .. ?  
GLASSER
given that that what we're doing is leaving, it's pretty hard to .. say, oh, this is outrageous, we should be fighting the Taliban more aggressively, because the bottom line is that's actually not what the American people want.
FREI
as the Taliban like to say, ..  he Brits have the clocks, we have the time.  
you can just smell that everyone is heading to the exit, and that smell was enhanced considerably this week by the election of Francois Hollande in Paris who basically made it an election platform that France would pull its troops out a year before everyone else's deadline. 

How Afghanistan Can Escape the Resource Curse


How Afghanistan Can Escape the Resource Curse
Local Is the Only Way to Go
February 29, 2012
J. Edward Conway
J. EDWARD CONWAY is an independent political risk consultant for mining companies in Central Asia. He is also a doctoral candidate at the Institute of Middle East, Central Asia, and Caucasus Studies at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland.

A big dig will soon be coming to Afghanistan. (Tim Winborne / Courtesy Reuters)

Until just a few weeks ago, serious talk about an Afghan economy based on natural resources seemed premature. But as Kabul inks more mining deals with international investors -- it awarded two major tenders at the end of 2011 -- and as NATO continues its drawdown of international troops, natural resources are shaping up to serve as the cornerstone of sustainable development there. This raises an unavoidable and possibly tragic question: Considering the country's lack of infrastructure and its rampant corruption, will Afghanistan become yet another data point in the literature on underdeveloped countries that fall victim to the resource curse [1]?

The possibility is real. Officials in both Washington and Kabul claim that the country's mineral wealth is worth as much as $3 trillion. Experts have suspected Afghanistan's resource potential for decades, and U.S. Geological Survey fieldwork conducted between 2009 and 2011 confirmed the existence of significant copper, iron ore, gold, lithium, rare earths, and mineral fuel resources such as coal, oil, and gas, and possibly even uranium.

plans to develop
Mining corporations and the Afghan government have wasted no time. In late 2011, Afghanistan's Ministry of Mines signed an oil exploration and production deal with the Chinese National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) to develop the Amu Darya basin's 80 million barrels of estimated crude reserves over the next 25 years; production is expected to begin this year. At the moment, the ministry is finalizing details with an Indian consortium of mining companies to develop the Hajigak deposit, one of the largest undeveloped iron ore deposits in the world, which has the potential to produce steel for the next 40 years. Both of these deals come after Kabul signed over to the Chinese the rights to the Aynak copper deposit in 2008, and the Qara Zaghan gold deposit to a consortium of investors gathered together by J. P. Morgan in early 2011.   Taken together, these first forays into Afghanistan's newfound subterranean treasure chest will mean billions of dollars in investment over the next decade; there will be new rail infrastructure, power plants, and possibly even a refinery. Kabul will reap significant new tax revenues, and tens of thousands of Afghans will be put to work.

hurdles in materializing the plans
Unconditional celebration, however, would be premature. Agreements notwithstanding, not a single mine has produced anything tangible -- not even the almost four-year-old Aynak copper mine, which will allegedly begin operation next year. Chinese investors also appear to be sliding on their promise to build a railroad as a part of the Aynak deal. Because of likely high operating costs, it remains unclear when the J. P. Morgan consortium will be able to produce an ounce of gold that competes at market prices.

reserve v. resource (resource – risk – reserve)
What's more, estimates for trillion-dollar earnings are almost entirely based on resources, not reserves -- a technical but critical difference. Reserve estimates incorporate economic, legal, social, governmental, and environmental risks to determine what is actually profitable to develop, as well as the site-specific mining and metallurgical challenges. Resource estimates result in optimistic press releases; reserve estimates result in foreign investment, jobs, and budgetary contributions. Kabul and Washington have focused on signing deals, thinking that a few key agreements would soothe the concerns of risk-averse investors. But the real challenge for the industry will be in production. And the test for Afghanistan -- herein lies the possibility of a curse -- will be whether or not a majority of the country reaps the secondary benefits of the mining sector's development.

two dimension resource curse involves
Resource curse theories follow two tracks. On the first, the overwhelming revenue drawn from the sector exacerbates corruption within the government. That scenario is hardly difficult to imagine in Afghanistan, as the country is currently considered the second most corrupt in the world, according to Transparency International. On the second track, increased mineral exports strengthen a country's currency and consequently crowd out other sectors (such as agriculture) from being competitive on the world market. This is a threat in Afghanistan, clearly, as its economy is largely dependent on farming. 

the goal should be
But several countries in Central Asia have struggled with exactly these challenges in recent decades -- and offer a valuable guide to Kabul, Washington, and international investors. Many states in the region are blessed with mineral wealth but cursed by infrastructure obstacles and social instability; accordingly, they have faced challenges in attracting foreign investors, cultivating resources without losing profits to graft, and avoiding introducing new divisions among the population. The most important lesson for Afghanistan to learn is that it will have to build a resource-based economy with the support of local Afghans

Kyrgyzstan
Take Kyrgyzstan, a mountainous, landlocked country with little rail infrastructure, deteriorating roads, and an economy based on foreign aid, remittances, and mining. Until recently, successive authoritarian leaders since the mid-1990s, such as Askar Akayev and Kurmanbek Bakiyev, advised foreign mining companies to avoid getting involved locally; a few token social projects to placate the people living near a project would suffice. But keeping out of local affairs has backfired. Mining revenues were funneled to elites in the capital, and a negligible percentage went to the local community for development and infrastructure projects.

Over time, local miners moved their families (and wealth) to the capital city; the loss of revenue and investment left the mining towns without running water or a functioning sewage system. In Barskaun, the only paved road is the one that leads to the mine -- Kumtor, a single gold mine, which represents ten percent of the country's GDP. That neglect not only shortchanged the locals but breeds insecurity today. In Aral, where there is a foreign-operated gold mine, armed men on horseback caused a million dollars' worth of damage in October 2011, forcing the site to remain closed until a settlement was reached with villagers three months later.

Kazakhstan
But then consider Kazakhstan, where the opposite has happened. The country of 16 million is an oil and gas exporter but also a global leader in copper, iron ore, chromite, lead, zinc, gold, coal, and uranium reserves and production. Since its independence in the 1990s, both foreign investors and government officials have focused on socioeconomic development in the areas surrounding key mining sites; today mines serve as a catalyst for province-wide growth. Managers and workers live locally, spend locally, and educate their children locally.

Astana has imposed strict requirements on foreign miners -- forcing them to sign annual memorandums of cooperation with local governors, under which both parties together determine the social investment projects to be funded by the firm in the province for that year. The strategy dates back to the Soviet era, when most of these mining operations had their hand in all aspects of the local community. Today this is reflected in foreign mining companies funding schools, gyms, sports stadiums, daycare centers, and orphanages and foster care networks, as well as providing electric-power capacity to homes and businesses across the country. Not coincidently, Kazakhstan ranks far ahead of all other Central Asian states on country risk indices for foreign investors.

Afghanistan at the moment
Unfortunately, at the moment Afghanistan is looking more like the former than the latter. Politically the country is already overly centralized in Kabul, and with Aynak and Hajigak within driving distance, it's not difficult to envision a future where the benefits of the extractive sector remain in the capital. Further, while all foreign developers are required to invest in development projects, it remains to be seen if these firms will make good on their promises and if local leaders will be empowered in the subsequent decision-making process. Whereas Kazakhstan enforces strict production and investment quotas -- if you don't produce and invest as you promised, you're out -- citing force majeure in Afghanistan (from war to civil disturbances to labor issues) seems like an easy way for Aynak and Hajigak to renege on local commitments, potentially aggravating the existing socioeconomic gap between Kabul and the rest of the country.

key solution is
It all comes back to ensuring a positive correlation between increased foreign investment and improved quality of life. In Kyrgyzstan you have armed men on horseback; in Kazakhstan you have local athletes wearing jerseys sporting the foreign miner's logo. There's no question that there are significant differences between the situation in Afghanistan and those in the Central Asian states. Afghanistan's levels of corruption and violence are far higher, the education level is much lower, and on transport infrastructure and power capacity issues, it is starting from scratch. But just as Kabul's mining deals to date are little more than agreements on paper, the unsettled nature of the larger issues can provide an opportunity to forge a path ahead. If Afghanistan wants to achieve that positive correlation of foreign investment with local quality of life -- and in doing so open the gates to foreign investment from the more risk-averse -- the Kabul-based elites and their foreign miners will need to spread the wealth.

Copyright © 2002-2012 by the Council on Foreign Relations, Inc. 

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[1] http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/137195/edited-by-paul-collier-and-anthony-j-venables/plundered-nations-successes-and-failures-in-natural-resource-ext

What's The Truth About The War In Afghanistan?



Talk of the Nation, NPR
What's The Truth About The War In Afghanistan?
GUESTS: Jim McGovern, Jonathan Landay, Tom Donnelly.  Feb. 9, 2012

Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis spent the last year in Afghanistan, where he hoped to find conditions matching the cautious optimism he heard from U.S. commanders. But in a recent piece in the Armed Forces Journal, he wrote that what he saw bore no resemblance to rosy official statements, and the American people deserve better than what they've gotten from their senior uniformed leaders over the last number of years. Colonel Davis concludes simply telling the truth would be a good start.

Congressman Jim McGovern, a Democrat from Massachusetts, one of four members briefed by Lieutenant Colonel Davis, and he joins us now from his office on the Capitol, and nice to have you with us.  

JIM MCGOVERN:  what he's asking for is more of an honest discussion, and he also expressed concern about the fact that more and more information about Afghanistan is being considered classified. So the Congress and the American people aren't getting as much access to what's really happening there

NEAL CONAN:  Lieutenant General Curtis Scaparrotti, who said that the lieutenant colonel's view is one person's view and said Afghan forces will be good enough to take over from the American-led coalition as we pull out over the next couple of years.

JIM MCGOVERN:  By the accounts that I've heard when I've been over in Afghanistan and from accounts that I've heard from, soldiers who have returned don't have a lot of trust in the Afghan armed forces or security forces. And they don't have a lot of trust in the Afghan government
President Karzai is a crook, that the corruption is so deep in that country that, you know, it's not salvageable and that Americans are putting their lives on the line basically to defend a government that's not worth defending
purpose
we went there to go after al-Qaida. We got Osama bin Laden, not in Afghanistan but in Pakistan.  What is the mission? And to imply that somehow the Afghan security forces are ready to take over and have achieved an amount this professionalism is just plain wrong

People ought to know why we're spending billions and billions of dollars over in Afghanistan, nation-building and supporting a corrupt government. People ought to know the facts because their sons and daughters are the ones who are being sent over there to risk their lives on behalf of this policy.

we should be talking about this policy. We should be talking about the realities on the ground. But this kind of knee-jerk reaction that every time somebody within the military stands up and tells the truth that all of a sudden they're subject to an investigation, and their character is questioned. This is just wrong-headed.

Taliban still in Afghan waiting for the US to pull out
JONATHAN LANDAY:  I went down south to Kandahar, which is one of the two provinces where the U.S. surge went into.  how the Taliban have purposely not engaged the United States, they're not fighting face-to-face. Their leaders have gone to Pakistan to wait out the clock that President Obama himself set in December, 2009.
 
Tribal elders who are unable to go back to their villages, and as they drive down the main street, they see the Taliban dressed - obviously without their weapons. 
But one of them said to me I know that they're Taliban, it's just the Americans don't..

NEAL CONAN: If they're just waiting for the American forces to leave, does that not give the Afghan forces, and indeed the Afghan government, as corrupt and as inefficient it might be, time to start becoming less corrupt, less deficient and more trusted by the people of Afghanistan? 

Non-military part of the war
JONATHAN LANDAY: This is the non-military part of the war. The government is ridden with corruption. You have an army that does not reflect the geographical dispersion of the ethnic groups in Afghanistan.  It reflects the ethnic proportions, but a lot of the Pashtuns, which is the dominant ethnic group from the south, are not joining the army because they are simply waiting. They know, first of all, that they risk their lives doing that, and they risk the lives of their families, but also they're waiting - sitting on the fence because they know what's coming. 
And what's coming is, in fact, a reversion to the civil war that the United States interrupted in 2001 when it went in. Only this time, as another observer said, on - Somalia on steroids, given the amount of weaponry the United States has poured in there. And it risks turning into a proxy war between Pakistan, which backs the Taliban, and its foe for the last 67 years, India.
 
That threatens regional instability, and this is something that the Obama administration and the U.S. military refuse to talk about publicly. 


NEAL CONAN: And I wonder: There are two levels of which Lieutenant Colonel Davis writes about that are significant, one of which is his assessment that where he went, and that was a lot of different places, the tactical situation was from bad to abysmal. And the other was that we're not getting the truth from U.S. military commanders

TOM DONNELLY: Not immediately. The civil war of the 1990s between the departure of the Soviets and the attacks of 2001 was a bit of a unique beast. It's certainly the case that, of the ethnic groups in Afghanistan, the Tajiks and the Uzbek and the Hazara and, actually, a good slice of the Pashtuns - and when we treat the Pashtun as though they're kind of monolith and that's hardly the case - have no interest in Taliban rule and influence from Pakistan et cetera, et cetera. So there is a fairly solid anti-Taliban base that really accounts for the majority of the population and, actually, a majority of the country.
That said, in the southern and southeastern parts of the country, there are unreconstructed Taliban, with Pakistani help and under the directorship of the Quetta Shura or people like the Hakanis, for example, there are plenty of people who can make life in Afghanistan miserable for Afghans. Their ability to generate a large-scale civil war, I think, one should be somewhat skeptical about, at least in the foreseeable future.

What I would really be worried about is that they will become a fight amongst a whole host of interested parties. Your caller mentioned the Indians. The Iranians will be the same. The Uzbek and the Tajiks across the border would naturally support their brethren. So the potential is there, but one should not think that it will immediately go back to a late-'90s kind of situation where you have shelling of Kabul, for example.

JONATHAN LANDAY: I think it depends a great deal on Pakistan and what it wants and to a great deal on the - on what the Americans and the Afghan government are talking to the Taliban about in terms of a political settlement of the war. If that settlement ignores the deep concerns and redlines of the minorities, the formerly - the leaders of the former Northern Alliance, then I think that Afghanistan could see a resumption of that civil war. If there is an agreement among the Americans and the Karzai government to talk to the former Northern Alliance, find out what their concerns are about bringing the reconciliation and address those concerns, then I think the chance for civil war is a great deal diminished. Unfortunately, that is not happening right now.

NEAL CONAN: Jonathan Landay, thanks very much for your time. Our thanks as well to Thomas Donnelly of the American Enterprise Institute's Center for Defense Studies. We were talking about an article called "Truth, Lies and Afghanistan" in the Armed Forces Journal by Lieutenant Colonel Daniel L. Davis

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DEB RIECHMANN and RAHIM FAIEZ   02/25/12
KABUL, Afghanistan — A gunman killed two American military advisers .. inside a heavily guarded ministry building, and NATO ordered military workers out of Afghan ministries as protests raged for a fifth day over the burning of copies of the Quran at a U.S. army base.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the Interior Ministry attack, saying it was retaliation for the Quran burnings, after the U.S. servicemen – a lieutenant colonel and a major – were found dead on the floor of an office that only people who know a numerical combination can get into, Afghan and Western officials said.

The top commander of U.S. and NATO forces recalled all international military personnel from the ministries, an unprecedented action in the decade-long war that highlights the growing friction between Afghans and their foreign partners at a critical juncture in the war


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The International Herald Tribune
Kabul's stealth attack on human rights
PATRICIA GOSSMAN, December 27, 2011 Tuesday

Sadly, not rocking the boat has been the American mantra for the past decade, and has only worsened insecurity. From the outset, the military campaign in Afghanistan reflected the narrow U.S. objective of defeating the Taliban and Al Qaeda and creating a government able to maintain stability following a troop withdrawal. Washington chose its allies among anti-Taliban forces, mostly comprising Northern Alliance warlords and their militias. The Pentagon consistently rebuffed concerns that these commanders, most with long records of war crimes, might prove to be a destabilizing factor. Ten years later, stability in Afghanistan is still an elusive goal.

But the past is not just the past in Afghanistan. In October, the United Nations published a report on rampant torture in Afghan government detention facilities. As a Western official who investigated torture under the Communist regime told me, just ''replace 2011 with 1979 and guess what?'' Things have barely changed. It is no surprise that the National Directorate of Security is known today by it's acronym from Soviet times, Khad. The practice of torture is the same, though it is not yet as pervasive.

That the past is repeating itself is no surprise to Afghans: When I was in Kabul in the late 1990s, people told me time and again that the only thing they feared more than the Taliban was that the warlords of the Northern Alliance might return to power.

The U.S. promise to build a democratic Afghanistan with respect for human rights seems all but forgotten, but it is still possible to salvage some measure of human rights protection. To start, the Obama administration and its European allies should raise concerns immediately with the Karzai government about the termination of the Human Rights Commissioners' appointments, and express strong support for the work Nadery and his colleagues have done.







War Crimes in Afghanistan



US Army soldier convicted of murdering Afghanistan civilians
Friday, November 11, 2011, Brandon Gatto

A US military court on Thursday convicted a US army squad commander of three counts of premeditated murder for leading a "kill team" in Afghanistan that targeted unarmed civilians and collected body parts as war trophies.

(DO- a crime within the jurisdiction of the ICC because Afghan is a state party to the Rome Statute, but BIA (bilateral immunity agreement) b/w the US and Afghan under art.98(2) of the Rome Statute )  

While three of the four defendants pleaded guilty and received reduced sentences, Sgt. Calvin Gibbs [NYT profile], 26, was given a life sentence for 15 convictions including murder, assault and conspiracy connected to the killing of three men not long after he took over the Fifth Brigade of the US Army [official website] Second Division in Afghanistan's Kandahar province in November 2009. Gibbs admitted to cutting and keeping fingers from the corpses as trophies, but claimed that he was merely returning enemy fire and was not motivated to kill. Prosecutors, however, relied on Gibbs' own likening of collecting amputated body parts to the antlers of a deer to characterize the platoon leader as a hunter who killed Afghans "for sport." Two co-defendants testified against their former leader, and told the court that Gibbs not only collected fingers and teeth from those he called "savages," but that he also took pictures next to the victims before leaving weapons around their bodies. While Gibbs has been given a life sentence, the court also granted the possibility of parole after less than 10 years.

Although the "kill team" incident has been considered one of the worst examples of American war crimes since the start of the Afghanistan campaign, other crimes have been alleged. In September 2010, former UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions Philip Alston [JURIST news archive] called for an investigation [JURIST report] into the conduct by both Taliban and US and British military forces, and expressed particular concern over the number of civilian deaths during the war in Afghanistan. At the time, Alston made specific reference to the alleged killings revealed [JURIST report] in secret military files published by WikiLeaks [website]. The latter has been described as the largest unauthorized release of classified documents in US military history allegedly littered with US war crime evidence. 

U.N. report finds torture by Afghan authorities - potential complicity of the US?


report
Treatment of Conflict­Related Detainees in Afghan Custody


The International Herald Tribune October 12, 2011 Wednesday  BY ALISSA J. RUBIN

U.N. report finds torture by Afghan authorities

A study released by the United Nations provides a devastating picture of abuses of detained militants by arms of the Afghanistan government.

Detainees are hung by their hands and beaten with cables, and in some cases their genitals are twisted until the prisoners lose consciousness at sites run by the Afghan intelligence service and the Afghan National Police, according to a report by the United Nations.

The report, based on interviews over the past year with more than 300 suspects linked to the insurgency, is the most comprehensive look at the Afghan detention system and an issue that has long concerned Western officials and human rights groups. It paints a devastating picture of abuse, citing evidence of ''systematic torture'' during interrogations by Afghan intelligence and police officials even as U.S. and other Western backers provide training and pay for nearly the entire budget of the Afghan ministries running the detention centers.

The report, released Monday, does not assess whether U.S. officials knew of the abuses. But such widespread use of torture in a detention system supported by U.S. mentors and money raises serious questions about the potential complicity of U.S. officials and whether they benefited from information obtained from suspects who had been tortured.

''I know of no one who knew about these alleged abuses as they were happening,'' said a U.S. official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the delicacy of the issues involved. ''Thus, it's impossible to know if there was any information passed on that came in some form from these alleged incidents.''

At a minimum, there appears to have been little effort to scrutinize the practices of the Afghan security forces at the detention centers, as pressure has built to move as much responsibility as possible to the Afghans and to reduce U.S. involvement in the country.

As the United States looks to wind down a decade of war in Afghanistan, the report threatens to complicate efforts to transfer more detention responsibilities to the Afghans. It could also set in motion provisions of U.S. law that would require the United States to cut off money to any Afghan unit involved in abuses.

The Afghan government denied the worst of the allegations in the report, while allowing that there were ''deficiencies'' in a war-torn country that routinely faced suicide bombings and other forms of terrorism.

Early word of the findings provoked immediate action. After seeing a draft of the report in September, Gen. John R. Allen, the NATO commander in Afghanistan, halted transfers of those suspected of being insurgents to 16 of the facilities identified as sites where torture or abuse routinely took place. He has since initiated a plan to investigate the sites, provide training in modern interrogation techniques and monitor the Afghan government's practices. The U.S. Embassy is now heavily involved in devising a long-term monitoring program for Afghan detention sites, U.S. officials said.

In a statement, NATO officials said they were working with the United Nations and the Afghan government to ''improve detention operations'' and ''establish safeguards.''

Nearly half of the detainees interviewed by U.N. researchers who were in detention sites run by the Afghan intelligence service, known as the National Directorate of Security, told of torture. The national police treatment of detainees was somewhat less severe and widespread, the report found. Its research covered 47 facilities in 22 provinces. Most of those interviewed were suspected of involvement in the insurgency.

Of the 324 security-related detainees interviewed, 89 had been handed over to the Afghan intelligence service or the police by international military forces, and in 19 cases, the men were tortured once they were in Afghan custody. The U.N. Convention Against Torture prohibits the transfer of a detained person to the custody of another state where there are substantial grounds for believing that the detainee is at risk of torture.

''Use of interrogation methods, including suspension, beatings, electric shock, stress positions and threatened sexual assault is unacceptable by any standard of international human rights law,'' the report said.

One detainee described being taken in for interrogation in Kandahar and having the interrogator ask whether he knew the name of the official's office. The detainee said that after he answered, the interrogator said, ''You should confess what you have done in the past as Taliban - even stones confess here.''

The man was beaten over several days for hours at a time with electrical wire and then signed a confession, the report said.

The report pointed out that even though the abusive practices were pervasive, the Afghan government did not condone torture and had explicitly said the abuses found by the United Nations were not government policy. Several longtime aid workers said that as disturbing as the allegations were, there had been improvements in detainee treatment, particularly since the Soviet occupation, when many people were detained and never heard from again.

''Reform is both possible and desired,'' said Staffan de Mistura, the U.N. special representative for Afghanistan, noting that the government had cooperated with the report's researchers and had begun to take remedial action.

''We take this report very seriously,'' said Shaida M. Abdali, the Afghan deputy national security adviser.

''Our government, especially the president, has taken a very strong stand on the protection of everyone's human rights, their humanity, everywhere and especially in prisons and in detention,'' he said.

The government said that it had set up a group to look into the problem and that it had dismissed several employees at a unit known as Department 124, where the United Nations said the torture appeared to have been the most entrenched. The intelligence service is now admonishing newly assigned interrogators to observe human rights, the government said in its response.

Still, a senior diplomat in Afghanistan said, the report had the potential ''to undermine the strategic partnership'' with both the European Union and the United States, referring to the agreement for future relations that the Americans and Afghans had hoped to complete by December.  It could also jeopardize U.S. financing. Under a law written by Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont, neither the State Department nor the Defense Department can provide assistance or training to any unit of the security forces of a foreign country if there is credible evidence of gross human rights abuses. However, financing can go forward to other units not involved and even to the offending units if serious remedial actions are taken.

''This would clearly constitute credible evidence,'' said Tom Malinowski, the director of the Washington bureau of Human Rights Watch, who has tracked the Leahy law.

Recently, the United States pulled financing for some units of the Pakistani military that were involved in extrajudicial killings in the tribal areas.  Money for the Afghan intelligence agency may not be not covered by the law, but it was unlikely that the Obama administration would use a legal technicality to continue financing the agency if torture allegations persisted, Mr. Malinowski said.

Ultimately the prosecution of the torturers is required, said Georgette Gagnon, the director of human rights for the United Nations in Afghanistan, in order to ''prevent and end such acts in the future.''

A number of instances have raised similar questions in other places, including Uzbekistan, Pakistan and El Salvador, according to a RAND Corp. report in 2006. Aid to Colombia in fighting its drug cartels and insurgents has also raised some of these issues and has periodically been halted to some military units as a result of gross violations of human rights, Mr. Malinowski said.

Phyllis Bennis on Afghan draw-down

In Afghanistan Speech, Obama Offers Token Troop Withdrawals While Maintaining the "War on Terror" Mindset
June 23, 2011 · By Phyllis Bennis

President Obama passed up an opportunity to recognize our democracy and respect the views of the vast majority of the American people with regards to the Afghanistan War.

President Obama’s speech yesterday violated one of his most important campaign promises: to “end the mind-set that leads to war.” 

To the contrary, his announcement of a token shift of 10,000 soldiers leaving by the end of 2011, and maybe another 23,000 in another year, makes clear that his claim yesterday that “the tide of war is receding” remains untrue.   The enormous current deployment of 250,000 U.S. and allied military forces (100,000 U.S. troops, 50,000 NATO troops and 100,000 Pentagon-paid contractors) in Afghanistan continues, and reflects not an end to but an embrace of the mind-set of war, even with this small shift of soldiers.   This was an opportunity for President Obama to recognize our democracy, to acknowledge and — dare I suggest — respect the views of the vast majority of the American people.  64 percent of the people in our country believe the war is not worth fighting. When this war began in October 2001, only about 12 percent of people in the U.S. did not support it. So a 64 percent opposition means a lot of folks have come to that realization now, after years of escalating Afghan civilian and U.S. military casualties, years of a collapsing economy, and yes, years of hard-fought antiwar organizing.

The American people are way ahead of the government on this one — Congress, the White House, the Pentagon, all of them.  A few members of Congress — those in the Progressive and Out of Afghanistan Caucuses — are starting to get it. Rep. Barbara Lee of California has introduced an amendment to the pending $560 billion Pentagon authorization bill (that one doesn’t even include the costs of the actual wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen and beyond) that would prohibit any money being spent on the war in Afghanistan except for the cost of a quick and safe withdrawal of all the troops. The U.S. Conference of Mayors just passed their first antiwar resolution since the height of the Viet Nam War in 1971, calling for a quick end to the war in Afghanistan and for the war dollars to be brought home to rebuild U.S. cities. The mayors get it, unemployed people across this country get it, many of the troops being forced into their third, fourth, or fifth deployments get it.  And that’s why the president’s speech tonight focused — however inadequately — on how many troops are being pulled out, not how many more are being sent in.  

But it’s not good enough. What President Obama announced yesterday is not a strategy. There still is no clear definition of a “military victory” in this endless war. In the first weeks after his inauguration, the new commander-in-chief announced he was sending 21,000 more troops to Afghanistan, and “then” he would decide on a strategy. Talk about backwards reasoning!

That 21,000 was followed, after months of discussion, by another 33,000 that made up the official “surge.” (It was first going to be 30,000, but you know how it goes.)  The first 21,000 apparently weren’t to be counted at all. So in his first year in office, President Obama escalated the U.S. troop presence in Afghanistan from a little more than 30,000 to almost 100,000 troops (along with the 100,000 mercenaries) — tripling the troop numbers.  With a token pull-back of 10,000 troops over the next six months, and maybe another 23,000 by the end of 2012 (presumably timed for maximum pre-election publicity) that still will leave almost 70,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan for years ahead — almost twice the number there when he took office.  Not to mention the 100,000 Pentagon-paid contractors and 50,000 NATO soldiers who apparently aren’t going anywhere.  And this for the first president to call an existing war “stupid” and to call for “an end to the mindset that leads to war.”

But that claimed goal of really figuring out a strategy, after sending the first 21,000 troops? That never really happened. Over the next year or so there were lots of discussions and debates, some classified, some leaked, some public, about counter-insurgency vs. counter-terrorism, of “boots on the ground vs. small teams of special forces, and more. But a clear strategy has yet to be identified.  A clear goal remains unknown.  If the goal was to weaken al-Qaeda, as we were so often told, isn’t the killing of the top guy and the reduction of its forces to about 50 al-Qaeda members in the entire country of Afghanistan good enough to claim victory? When he announced the official 30,000-troop surge in December 2009, Obama did claim that he would begin to withdraw those troops (and only those, apparently) in 18 months. But that wasn’t a strategy either.  So now that the 18 months have passed, we’re left with still no strategy, still no definition of victory, only a huge hemorrhaging of U.S. dollars and Afghan civilian blood.

The cost of the war in Afghanistan so far — just Afghanistan, not counting Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, etc. — is already almost half a trillion dollars.  If you want exact figures, according to the National Priorities Project it’s $426 billion.  That’s not counting the hundreds of billions more it will take over the next generation to care for the U.S. soldiers who have come home so grievously wounded in mind and body.  It costs about $1 million per soldier per year to fight the war in Afghanistan today. For that same amount of money, the U.S. government could bring that soldier home and hire her and 19 more for a year at a good, green middle-class job. 

This year alone, U.S. taxpayers will pay about $122 billion for those U.S. soldiers to kill and die in Afghanistan. That money could instead provide health care to more than 62 million children here at home. Or provide 2.4 million new green jobs for a year.  If we just look at Wisconsin, where the state budget deficit sparked this year’s first massive mobilization for jobs and against wars and cutbacks, the state deficit totaled about $1.8 billion.  That’s a lot of money. But this year alone, the taxpayers of Wisconsin paid almost exactly that same amount — $1.7 billion to be exact — as their share of the war in Afghanistan. That’s why ending the wars is the most important single thing we can do to rebuild our economy and provide jobs for people across this country.  

The costs of war wouldn’t be such a major consideration if this were a war for justice, instead of for vengeance, or if this were a war really liberating an oppressed people.  But the reality is sadly different.  While of course stability in identified and discrete areas can be imposed by “surging” huge numbers of U.S. troops, it (stability) is bound to last only as long as those troops remain.  Whether they leave tomorrow or in five years, when they leave those people who live in Afghanistan will remain.  And we need to remember the words of Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who was asked last year by an irritated senator just how, without tanks or planes, the Taliban was winning.  “It’s their country, senator,” Mullen answered.  He was right. We’re not rebuilding the country, we’re just scaffolding a corrupt government and creating a huge military we call the Afghan “National” Army despite the lack of any real national center for that army to be loyal to. 

There is no strategy for Afghanistan.  The “fighting season” is simply a dying season, and there is always another one next year.  The debate between counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism is simply a debate over how many troops will be sent and how many people will die.  When the White House and the Pentagon speak of the COIN strategy, they might have a better definition than counter-insurgency — they may mean it as Congressional Indoctrination for war spending.  The goal is to win the hearts and minds of the Congressional Appropriation Committees — not the Afghan people

Afghan civilians are paying the highest price.  Many in the U.S. like to think we are continuing the war in Afghanistan in the interest of Afghan women, by keeping the Taliban out of power.  But the reality is the vast majority of women who die prematurely in Afghanistan don’t die because they’re killed by the Taliban; they die in childbirth.   Afghanistan remains the second worst place in the world for a woman to give birth and hope to live; it’s the very worst place for a child to be born and expect to live towards his or her first or fifth birthday.  After ten years of U.S. military occupation, ten years of a war waged in the name of Afghan women, the maternal and child mortality rates remain exactly where they were in 2000, when the Taliban governed the country. 

According to the United Nations, 2010 saw the highest level of civilian casualties since they began keeping records. And the casualties are rising, not falling; May 2011 has seen the highest levels yet. Some argue that we shouldn’t take that as a reason to end the war, since “only” 25 percent of the casualties are directly caused by U.S./NATO troops.  But aside from the morality of that question (do we really want to claim that causing 25 percent of massive civilian casualties is somehow okay?), we have to look at the realities on the ground.  Of the casualties linked to anti-U.S. or anti-Afghan government forces, 75 percent are caused by IEDs, the improvised explosive devices that have also devastated so many coalition soldiers’ lives. Those IEDs are found almost entirely on roads frequented by U.S. and NATO troops — they are the real target, and the civilians pay the price.

There is an old Afghan proverb that says “when two bulls fight, it is the shrubs and plants that suffer.” That remains true today.

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June 22, 2011
The Diane Rehm Show features Phyllis Bennis in their broadcast "What's Next for U. S. Strategy in Afghanistan."

Rehm : A thoughtful compromise, Phyllis Bennis?

Bennis : No. I think this is real triangulation. I think that what we're looking at is not even counterinsurgency. If we want to look at the acronym COIN, I think it could better be used to describe congressional indoctrination for war spending. This is about winning the hearts and minds of the Appropriations Committees. President Obama, on this issue, has already lost the hearts and minds of the American people who say 64 percent of Americans now say the war is not worth fighting.
And to say that we are going to have -- of the 100,000 troops, plus 50,000 NATO troops, plus 100,000 or so DOD-paid contractors or mercenaries in Afghanistan for an indefinite period, that we're supposed to be satisfied by a token withdrawal of 5- or 10,000 out of that 250,000 is almost insulting as something that is designed to respond to the demands of American people that the money -- the war money be brought home.

Rehm : David Ignatius, talk about the supposed ongoing negotiations with the Taliban in the midst of this drawdown

Ignatius : It's one of the most interesting aspects of what's going on in Afghanistan. I think the president will speak about the diplomatic surge that Secretary of State Clinton called for last February, and he will, in general terms, say that it's making progress. You know, he'll say we need to make much more effort in this area. I think that will be part of the speech. How's it going?
My sources tell me that the U.S. was able to arrange secret meetings with a Taliban representative who has a history of being very close to Mohammed Omar, the head of the Taliban, and held a series of meetings with him under the mediation of the Germans and the Qataris. Since those meetings were publicized about a month ago, that emissary appears to have withdrawn. The publicity was not to his liking. The expectation is that he'll come back.
And, in general, most of the people that I've talked to say that this channel seemed to offer some real possibility, that this was someone unlike other emissaries that we've contacted who had real street credent in the Taliban. And as -- a final thing I'd say, is that the U.S. reading is that one condition for a deal with the Taliban, that they renounce al-Qaida is probably resolved by the death of bin Laden.
Because Mullah Omar's and most of the Taliban commanders' promise of loyalty was specific and personal to bin Laden, not to Zawahiri, the Egyptian who is now the (word?), the leader of al-Qaida. So, in a sense, that puts that issue behind. There's a lot of other really hard issues, but this is something to keep your eye on.

Rehm: General, do the negotiations that David has talked about allow the president, at this moment, following the death of bin Laden, to begin this drawdown?

Barno : Well, I think so. And I think the key the president recognizes is that there's a great deal of psychology behind this announcement and that that's going to affect not only a domestic audience here at home, but it's going to have a big effect in the region. When he made his December 2009 speech at West Point, the single line take-away from that entire speech in the region -- and I've traveled out there extensively. I was in Pakistan for a week in January.
The message after the December '09 speech was, the Americans are leaving, and they're leaving in July 2011. And the administration spent the next 18 months trying to roll that back. And they had, I think, a degree of success with that. Last November, at the NATO Lisbon Conference, there was a timeline laid out, that all the NATO nations and the Afghan government agreed to transition lead security responsibility in Afghanistan to the Afghans by the end 2014.

Ignatius : Well, we're spending an awful lot of money in Afghanistan -- $120 billion this year -- and for a country that is in serious fiscal trouble -- they're going to look for cuts in the defense budget, and I know the White House would love to cut as much as it thinks it responsibly could from the Afghanistan part of that. This is a hideously expensive war to wage. It's just so hard to get stuff there. It's so remote. The conditions in the winter, they're nightmarish if you've ever been there.
We just -- we need the money, and we want these troops home, but not to give up the gains that he thinks have been made over the past year-and-a-half.

Rhem : And, Phyllis Bennis, what about those gains? Do you have some concerns that reducing the number of troops by the end of the year could, in fact, reverse the progress that's been made?

Bennis : I think, Diane, that many of the gains that are claimed are inherently temporary. They're only going to last as long as the U.S. troops are there. And if the U.S. troops leave now, some of that will change. If they leave five years from now, it will change then. So the question is what is to be gained. You know, we have to look very carefully. I would say one thing in response to something David just said about the surge of 30,000.

Well, I think that the facts of what Dave just said is true, but I also think we need to keep in mind two things. One is the United Nations, for years, has acknowledged that in the poorest countries, the more money of their very tiny budgets that is spent on the military and police, the lower the rates of survival of the population in terms of human development index questions, issues of maternal mortality, which has stayed exactly as it was when the Taliban was in control after nine, 10 years of U.S. occupation.

We are creating a huge military in our image. That's true. Whether that has anything to do with what the people of Afghanistan want and need -- this is not a country like Iraq with a history of strong national leadership.  It's a country that, historically, barely held together nationally, and where identities are bound up with village, with region, with tribe and not with national identity.

Rehm : Phyllis, what is it you would wish to hear the president say tonight?

Bennis : I would wish President Obama to say, we have been in Afghanistan for 10 years. We went there to officially wipe out the al-Qaida forces there. All of the intelligence people have said that even before the death of Osama bin Laden in Pakistan that there were only between 50 and 100 members of al-Qaida in Afghanistan. That work is done. If he wants to declare it as a victory, fine.

But the answer should be, we cannot afford to spend the money, and the people of Afghanistan cannot afford the continued dying to continue this war. I am now announcing that we are bringing home not only the 30,000 of the surge, but we are bringing home all 100,000 U.S. troops that are in Afghanistan. We are ending the process of paying the 100,000 additional contractors that are there, and we are ending this war, beginning tonight.

Rhem : And, David Ignatius, what would be, in your view, the result if Phyllis' desire were satisfied?

Ignatius : The risk -- I won't say the result because these things are hard to predict. But the risk would be that you would create a vacuum in Pakistan in which the different ethnic groups would turn to their regional patrons for support. The Pashtuns would turn to the ISI, the Pakistani military. The Tajiks would turn to the Indians, primarily.  In the west, around Herat, the Iranians, who have a lot of influence, would become a dominant power.
You'd have a situation that I would liken to Lebanon, where the country just gets pulled apart, and you have a civil war and kind of permanent instability in a key strategic area.
And I have to say we've been through that before.  You know, we once before put a lot of money and effort into Afghanistan to get the Soviets out, and then we walked away in the '80s and '90s. And what we ended up with was a complete mess.
But it was also a mess that was deadly for the United States. The plots to take down the twin towers on Sep. 11 began not just in Afghanistan, but began in that vacuum. So, I think, people are afraid of repeating that history. And there's a desire to withdraw in a way that doesn't just preserve the gains the way we talked about earlier, but does the best job we can to protect our own interests, you know, not being a vacuum there.

Specifically, the Indian prime minister, Manmohan Singh, went to Kabul in May and stated a formula for what India would like to see as diplomatic outcome that was word-for-word identical to what the Pakistani Prime Minister Gillani had said when he was in Kabul the month before and is word-for-word identical to what the United States favors, which is an Afghan-led solution.

Rehm : And then the pieces are put in separately, are they not, Gen. Barno?

Barno : Well, they are, but this takes us back to the first year of the administration, 2009. And President Bush, before he left, got a recommendation from commanders in Afghanistan to increase those troop numbers. He asked President Obama, as I recall, to ratify that, which he did. But then there was this nine-month period of time with Gen. McChrystal making his assessment in a very long deliberation inside the administration.
So the president announced what's called the surge today, that 30,000 in December of 2009. Now, of course, it was added onto the forces that were already there. So that's where that number comes from.

Ignatius : Well, there has been a lot of U.S. spending on economic development in Afghanistan.  I have to say a lot of it has been wasted. And if I were to note the biggest frustration I feel, as somebody who visits that country often, it's that the Afghan government, which is our partner nominally, is so corrupt. Our mission there has been, in part, about building governance so that they'll be a more stable and prosperous Afghanistan going forward. And I hate to say it, but what we've created, in part, is a new kleptocracy.

Barno : Well, I think one of the mistakes we sometimes make -- and this comes out often in the media -- is that we look at Afghanistan as the island of Afghanistan, as a country set in the middle of an ocean without any connections, without any other influence, without any other impact on the neighbors around it. In reality, this is a very important, very dangerous part of the world for the United States.
It's not just about Afghanistan. Their next-door neighbor to the east is the second largest Islamic country in the world, Pakistan, with 180 million people. By mid-century, they'll have 300 million Pakistanis. Next to them is India with 1.2 billion.
Both those countries have over 100 nuclear weapons.

Rehm : So what is the effect of Secretary Gates' departure, Gen. Barno?

Barno :  Well, I think there's going to be a lot more continuity than there will be disruption in that. We saw yesterday that soon-to-be Secretary Panetta was confirmed with 100-to-0 vote in the Senate. That's very impressive. That's a tremendous vote of confidence in him. And I think he will carry on, substantially, the Gates legacy. They're very close friends. They have interesting backgrounds that both bring unique skills to the table.
Panetta, formerly head of OMB, Office of Management and Budget, is going to have to bring that knife from his OMB days into the Pentagon and try and shape that into a more efficient organization. Part of that will be wrapped around this drawdown, this responsible transition coming up here in Afghanistan.

Ignatius : The strategy that the president endorsed in December 2009 called for clearing the Taliban strongholds in the south, which had been resistant to all previous efforts since 2001, Kandahar and Helmand provinces. They haven't been entirely cleared, but there are areas that were very insecure before, basically, with no-go zones that -- where the Taliban have been pushed out. Lashkar Gah, the regional capital of Helmand province, is thought now to be secure enough that it can be transferred to Afghan control.
I wouldn't have thought that possible a year ago. I'm less impressed than some about the gains that have been made, but it'd be wrong for me to say there haven't been gains. Journalists that I respect a great deal, among them Carlotta Gall of The New York Times, who have sources in the Taliban, have consistently reported over the last year that in the south, in Helmand and Kandahar provinces, the Taliban really have been rocked.
They're not wiped off the map. But places that -- where there are strongholds, they don't hold anymore, and they're feeling some pain. So if the question is, have we accomplished anything? Do we have an idea of what we're doing? The answer is yes. Again, I temper that by saying I think the gains are less than some (unintelligible).

Bennis :  I think we have to be clear that what we are leaving behind is not a country that is on its way to some peaceful, better future. I agree that if we left, it's not going to be Switzerland overnight. But we have to be clear what we have not done. The vast majority of women who died prematurely in Afghanistan don't die because they're killed by the Taliban. They die in childbirth.
And the position of Afghanistan as the worst place for a child to live, to grow up and the second worst place in the world for a woman to live through childbirth is Afghanistan exactly as it was when the Taliban was in power.